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Quelle faculté de droit est la plus demandée ?
Delphine Jung
2017-08-30 15:00:00
Et laquelle est la plus sélective ? Droit-inc a investigué auprès des cinq facultés de droit que compte le Québec ainsi que celle de l’Université d’Ottawa…
Dans quelle université est-ce le plus difficile d’entrer?
Un bon écrémage se fait dans chaque faculté.
Et c’est à l’Université McGill où il est le plus difficile d’être admis. Avec seulement 21% d’acceptation, c’est donc seulement un demandeur sur cinq qui se retrouvera sur les bancs de la faculté à l’automne.
Les suivent l'UQAM avec un pourcentage de 26 %, l’Université d’Ottawa, qui compte entre 28 % et 32% d’admis sur le total des demandes, et l’Université de Montréal, avec 35 %. C’est à l’Université de Sherbrooke où il est le facile d’être admis à la faculté de droit, avec un pourcentage de 41%.
À moins que ce ne soit à l’Université Laval?
En effet, seule la faculté de droit de l’Université Laval n’a pas souhaité communiquer le nombre d’étudiants admis dans son programme. On sait seulement qu’avec 330 inscrits sur 1 596 demandes, c’est 20% de ces demandes qui aboutissent sur les bancs de l’université de Québec.
Comme les étudiants tentent leur chance dans plusieurs universités, ceux qui sont acceptés dans deux ou trois d’entre-elles ont le choix. Ainsi, seulement 39 % des admis à l’UQAM décident de s’inscrire contre 68 % des admis à McGill .
Enfin, la faculté de droit qui compte le plus d’étudiants est l’UdM avec 422 étudiants en première année. Celle qui en compte le moins est l'UQAM, avec 126.
Voici le tableau en détail :
ND : la donnée manquante est celle que l’Université Laval n’a pas voulu communiquer à Droit-inc.
Nombre de demandes : il s’agit du nombre de personnes qui ont postulé pour entrer à la faculté de droit.
Nombre d’admis : il s’agit du nombre de personnes parmi les postulants qui ont été admis à la faculté de droit.
Nombre d’inscrits : il s’agit du nombre final de personnes inscrites en premier cycle de droit de l’université.
NB: L'UQAM propose différents programmes de droit. Les chiffres ci-dessus ne concernent que le programme de droit qui mène à l'examen du Barreau.
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25 commentaires
DSG
il y a 6 ansThis survey does not portray an accurate picture. First of all it's difficult to be admitted to McGill because it's a small faculty and they favor applicants with undergrads and rich snob kids from foreign countries. When they graduate it gives McGill exposure overseas. Then they complain that the school doesn't get enough government funding on account being English.
UdeM is by far the first choice of applicants who do not have an undergrad or do not come from an exotic country. Considering that all applicants hedge their bets, they all apply to the other universities. Hence the numbers represent the same people applying to different schools. Those who attend the others consist mainly of those rejected from UdeM. Complain all you want Laval, Ottawa and Sherbrooke, but it's a fact.
And UQAM has a high number of students who get admitted but never attend because they usually come to their senses before class begins in September. They see themselves as unemployed and say, screw that, I'll become a dental hygienist instead. And if you do get rejected by UQAM, chances are you got rejected everywhere which is a strong indication that law is not for you.
Anonyme
il y a 6 ansDid you apply to Mcgill and get accepted to UdeM by chance?
DSG
il y a 6 ansI won't answer that in order not to divulge anything regarding my real identity. However I will say that McGill (whether I applied or not) would not have been my first choice. I was advised that if one truly wants to practice REAL law, McGill is highly overrated. If you want to study obscure subject likes aerospace law, medical ethics and useless crap like that with the intention of working at the U.N. or some international organization, it's a fine school. If you want to actually practice, McGill graduates don't even own a civil code. Think about it, for Julius Grey teaches there.
Anonyme
il y a 6 ansMcGill Law grad here.
Your comment is typical of someone who hasn't set foot at McGill Law, yet hates it for an obscure reason.
McGill students actually do study «real» law and do own one (if not several) copies of the Code. It's in fact required in many classes. All students go through the classic courses such as contracts, obligations, constitutional law, etc. Courses like «aerospace law» and «medical ethics» are optional and only taken by students who have a genuine interest in those. It also turns out that those particular courses are taught by world-class experts in their fields and many students who take them end up having brilliant careers. Seems to me like that's as far as you can get from the definition of «useless crap».
Take a quick look at all big law firms in Montreal and you'll see that there are a ton (if not a majority) of McGill graduates practicing law, just like their peers from other «real» law schools, which are, by the way, all very respectable too.
Steve Wynn
il y a 6 ansVite comme ça on aurait dit le Wynn à Vegas.
Ben non, c'est plutôt une université Québécoise de 3e ordre.
The Venitian
il y a 6 ansC'est tellement vrai!!!
DSG alter ego
il y a 6 ansNobody likes a condescending person. They are universally disliked, and their "advice" is hardly ever appreciated. And yet, even though you know better, you might sometimes find yourself being the one who is condescending. Yes, even if you are usually super nice. And yes, even if you don't mean any harm.
Because, even if you're the sweetest person in the world, it's still possible to let your accidental superiority complex shine on. It makes sense why this might happen, too. After years of being a kid, you are finally a true, bonafide grownup in control of your own destiny. It can be really difficult to keep your judge-y advice to yourself... But let's look at your career, for a second... It's taken you forever to work your way up from total underling, to someone with a bit of responsibility. So how can you possibly not come off as slightly condescending.... you are forgiven ...
DSG
il y a 6 ansIf so there is a distinction between condescension and speaking the truth. I was simply keeping it real.
As per the superiority complex, that I do not have. I often make jokes about myself and unlike most people in the field I don't think that I'm better than others. And if I did have a superiority complex it would not be because I went to such and such a school. None of them adequately prepare you for the real practice (because the teachers are not real lawyers). You use the degree to get a foot in the door and your name is built on the street, winning cases, closing big deals etc.
SMMD
il y a 6 ansThe original sin of Laval, Sherby and (possibly) Ottawa, is not being in Montreal. They're all great schools. UQAM is also fine. There's no reason for people to slag any of them.
For Pete's sake, when there are only 6 law schools to speak of, wtf is the point of arguing over which one is better than the other?
GB
il y a 6 ansBecause in the real world, distinctions as to quality matter. Great law schools should be heralded, championed and emulated. Law schools that are less so should be called out, if not to make them better. "Everyone wins a trophy" is not a philosophy for success.
DSG
il y a 6 ansSure a degree from McGill is very impressive. But I find that after a couple of years of practice graduates tend to fizzle out much quicker than lawyers who graduated from other schools. McGill is not the best for practical learning. Well none of them are. Maybe I would have gone if I had a choice, just for the prestige. The university in general is the closest thing we have to ivy league. I don't know.
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il y a 6 ansYou sound like Trump: defensive, no substance and paranoid
DSG
il y a 6 ansThe guy is a multi-billionaire and now president of the most powerful country in the world. I wish I was more like him.
Steve Wynn
il y a 6 ansI sure closed a big deal buying that plot of land on the Vegas strip to build my two hotels.
The streets are were real men are made!
Anonyme
il y a 6 ansDSG, arrêtez avec vos histoires de "real law" et de professeurs qui ne sont pas de "real lawyers"! Sans la théorie, la pratique ne vaut rien et c'est surtout le cas pour des domaines comme le droit. Vous pensez qu'on enseigne quoi dans les facs de droit? Des recettes de cuisine? Et vous croyez meilleur que les autres parce que vous avez abusé des effets de toges dans les prétoires ou que vous passez votre temps à rédiger des actes juridiques? Descendez de vos grands chevaux! Par ailleurs, pour votre gouverne, le droit ne se résume pas à régler les querelles de clochers; le droit international en est aussi un aspect respectable. Peut-être que vous devriez sortir un peu et allez faire un tour dans ces contrées "exotiques" d'où viendraient les étudiants de McGill, ça vous rendra moins aigre-doux.
DSG
il y a 6 ansThe theory is great and it's very interesting to study. But we come out of school and find ourselves with the deer in the headlights look. In 4 years of schooling we get only one course in procedure, one course of corporate law (which doesn't even touch on shareholder agreements), and zero on negotiation. Then the first things we are asked to do when we get a job is draft a motion for this, draft a corporate resolution, appear in court for that, negotiate that lease, protect the minority shareholders, merge these two companies and we be like "huh"? And don't say that you are supposed to learn that stuff during your stage because if you don't figure it out on your own without asking the maître de stage you will not be retained after the stage. If that happens then your degree will really be useless.
Theory is good for the libraries. In all these years of practice never has a client asked for a legal opinion on the historical origins of Quebec law.
Une presqu'avocate
il y a 6 ansJ'aurais été acceptée partout et j'ai seulement appliqué à Sherbrooke. Je n'ai jamais regretté mon choix. Vive l'UDES.
Anonyme
il y a 6 ansEn effet, de mon côté j'ai appliqué partout et ai été acceptée partout...et j'ai chosi Sherbrooke. Le côté pratique de l'enseignement, les classes relativement petites ainsi que le milieu de vie m'ont attirée. J'avais déjà un autre bac de l'UdM et ne tenais pas particulièrement à y retourner.
Anonyme
il y a 6 ansI seriously doubt that you applied and was accepted to McGill's Faculty of Law (arguably the best law school in Canada), and then chose to attend the university of Sherbrooke. Nice try.
DSG
il y a 6 ansIf an applicant for a job told me that I wouldn't hire him for the simple reason that I would think that he or she was retarded.
Anonymous
il y a 6 ansWhat's up with all the needless school bashing? Most of us only experience one law school (I think that's enough lol), so it's kind of hard to accurately judge another school's program. The good thing about Canada is that most schools here give you a pretty good education regardless of ranking, and it's not heavily tiered like in the US. In the end, a degree is just a piece of paper and while it can give you a leg up in finding your first job, the vast majority of your career will be decided based on other factors like your work ethic and quality.
Anonyme
il y a 6 ansI find it unfortunate that school bashing still has a place in discussions here. Sure, I can accept that some schools have a particular expertise and an advantage in some areas. For example: UdeM's reputation as a strong overall QC civil law school; McGill's ease of access to international markets; UQAM's devotion to droit social; Sherbrooke's Barreau-friendly approach to teaching; and Laval's constitutional law expertise. Obviously, my personal view to each school's perceived expertise doesn't do it justice. At the end of the day, all Quebec law schools provide the necessary education to practice in Quebec and beyond. The rest is up to you.
aux 2
il y a 6 ansJ'ai étudié aux 2 universités pour mon bac. J'ai préféré l'UDES pour la proximité et disponibilité des professeurs. L'UDEM était bien aussi, mais ce qui m'a préparé au barreau est vraiment la pédagogie UDES, très ancrée sur le côté pratique.
lol
il y a 6 ansThen your practice must suck. Researching the historical origins of law is actually quite common in Supreme court cases, even happens in some Appeal cases.
FRANCO-ANGLO- THATS IT
il y a 3 ansSPOKEN LIKE A REAL MCGILL REJECT WHO WANTS TO SPREAD THE LIE THAT UDEM IS BETTER.
UQAM STUDENTS PERFORM BETTER AT THE BARREAU - FACT.
HALF OF THE MCGILL GRADUATES DO NOT FIND JOBS IN MONTREAL BECAUSE THEY SPEAK FRENCH LIKE LIL KIM IN THAT LADY MARMALADE SONG - FACT.
UDEM AND UQAM ARE REALISTICALLY THE BEST choices FOR A CIVIL LAW DEGREE AND A CAREER IN MONTREAL.